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  October 25, 2007, 15:24 PM

DaniD
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Vietnam (and side trip to Angkor Wat)

I'm hoping to spend two weeks next spring touring Vietnam with a side trip Angkor Wat.  Would love to hear your suggestions on what to see, how long to stay in places, where to stay and eat, etc.

Also, someone suggested flying into Bangkok and making  all flight arrangements there (and flying in and out of Bangkok to Cambodia and Vietnam) because flights are cheap.  Has anyone done this?


Thanks!


  October 26, 2007, 01:23 AM

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Boy oh boy

I haven't been since 1997 when I spent a month there. I LOVE Vietnam. I didn't get to Cambodia (visa problems), but I did fly to Bangkok and just make my plans there. It took me two nights in Bangkok to get to Vietnam (flight availability). The flights were much cheaper than setting them up here in the US (back in 1997).


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  October 29, 2007, 21:33 PM

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found this itinerary on

found this itinerary on wikitravel a few months ago. 

 

Bangkok to Ho Chi Minh City overland...

 

http://wikitravel.org/en/Bangkok_to_Ho_Chi_Minh_City_overland


  October 31, 2007, 09:41 AM

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re:Vietnam (and side trip to Angkor Wat)

OK. My info may be a bit out of date, as i was there in 2001.. but here goes:

fights in and out of bangkok were very cheaper and generally pretty easy to arrange. as for bangkok itself... if you have never been there, it is worth spending a couple days to check out the major sights. personally, after 5 or 6 Bangkok visits, i can't stand the place (you seem to end up going through there to "take care of business"  constantly when you are in SE Asia). The heat and humidity and people and POLLUTION kill me. But the first time I was there, I enjoyed it. Check out the Royal Palace.

Siem Riep (for Angkor Wat)... used to be you paid for 2 days and got three.  I would say you need at least three days to see everything there without running around like a chicken with its head cut off.  Highlights = Angkor Thom (that's the one that they have not restored... a controversial decision, but it is really fascinating to see how the jungle can just take over...) and the one with all of the faces (sorry, drawing a blank on the name right now... you will inevitably get there). Also, there is a group of temples that is a bit farther away, where not too many people really go. We went, and quite enjoyed it. Fewer tourists, and a slightly different style of architecture. Most people hired a local with motorcycle to take them around to the different temples. I was with a friend, and we managed to hire a guy who had a little two-wheel chariot kind of thing that he pulled with his motorcycle. Not as fast, but more comfortable, and kind of fun. When we went to the temples that were a bit farther away, our driver took us the back way so we could see his village. We were apparently quite a novelty, because as we drove along, every person, young and old, would stop what they were doing, run to the side of the road and smile and wave to us. We felt like royalty.  But I digress...

I also spent some time in Phnom Penh, which I quite enjoyed. Stayed at one of those little guest houses on the lake. The Toul Sleng museum (a former high school that became the Khmer Rouge's Prison 21 torture facility) made for a very distubing but powerful experience. Our tour guide's family had been sent out to the country by the Khmer Rouge, and she really brought a powerful personal element to the museum experience. Since it was not so long ago, many of the older people in Cambodia have very vivid memories of the Khmer Rouge, but they are very hesitant to talk about it.

Also went to Sihanoukville, down on the coast... which was a beautiful little beach town, and ridiculously cheap (in case you want a few days of beach relaxation). Not so many tourists, which is always nice.

Never made it to Vietnam. Before my trip, I had heard from a friend that it was his favorite country in the area... but by the time I got there, the buzz among the travelers was not so positive. So I went to Laos instead, which was terrific.. but that's another story.

Good luck!


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  November 08, 2007, 04:31 AM

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re:Vietnam (and side trip to Angkor Wat)

We are going to do the same trip over Christmas and New Year's.  When I get organized (I just got back from India) I will post my itinerary.  And certainly I will write a trip report.  Hopefully that helps, and it should be up-to-date.  There will be six of us traveling together.  Me, my wife, 19 year old daughter, 16 year old son, a girl friend of my wife's and her 16 year old son.  We spend two nights in Saigon, then a swing through Hue/Da Nang/Hoi An, three nights in Hanoi and three nights in Siem Reap.  

 I've been told to avoid Phnom Penh, by someone who knows better.  And unfortunately no time to run up to Laos.  Finally, too cold in the winter for Sapa, but it might be wonderful in the spring. 

We did the internal flights through a contact in Vietnam.  It appears that we saved about half. 


Are we there, yet?

  December 05, 2007, 19:21 PM

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Roel wrote:

We are going to do the same trip over Christmas and New Year's.  When I get organized (I just got back from India) I will post my itinerary.  And certainly I will write a trip report.  Hopefully that helps, and it should be up-to-date.  There will be six of us traveling together.  Me, my wife, 19 year old daughter, 16 year old son, a girl friend of my wife's and her 16 year old son.  We spend two nights in Saigon, then a swing through Hue/Da Nang/Hoi An, three nights in Hanoi and three nights in Siem Reap.  

 I've been told to avoid Phnom Penh, by someone who knows better.  And unfortunately no time to run up to Laos.  Finally, too cold in the winter for Sapa, but it might be wonderful in the spring. 

We did the internal flights through a contact in Vietnam.  It appears that we saved about half. 

 

sounds awesome!

 

A friend may be working in Sydney in a year and I will probably want to go visit him.  He's already open to traveling somewhere else for a week so SE Asia looks like it could be our destination!


  November 16, 2007, 11:02 AM

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sounds wonderful...


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  November 26, 2007, 11:05 AM

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I want to travel there if have chance....


if summersnow is truth.....

  December 30, 2007, 15:09 PM

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It has been incredibly busy and fulfilling trip to Vietnam.  We leave this afternoon for Cambodia.  The upshot about traveling in Vietnam is that I highly recommend it.  There are some considerations.  The cities are gritty and intense, but in a good way.  Walking through Hanoi is like taking a step back in time 50 years.  Cluttered, crowded, vendors everywhere, almost no rules.  The buildings are not high, about 3 stories typically.  But the street scene is a complete jumble.  The air is thick with smoke and smells.  People cooking on the sidewalks, cafes spilling into the streets, small women chasing you with baskets of fruit.  The weather in Hanoi has been overcast, so the grittiness is emphasized.  Another consideration is that the tourist trade is pretty well set up here.  This is exotic, but hardly on the edge.  Everything is pretty well organized, and plenty of Europeans, Aussies and Koreans touring the cities and the countryside.  Finally, don't expect the infrastructure to always work.  Roads and trains are poor quality, so things that you think would take one hour in the US, or three hours based on experienced judgment, can take up to six hours in reality. 

 

We spent two days in Saigon.  Saigon is an easy city for walking around.  The number one cultural difficulty is crossing the street, but once you get the hang of it, you feel pretty proud of yourself.  Saigon is, depending on your mood, thriving and pulsing, or chaotic and crowded.  The street scene here is actually quite a treat.  Food hawkers, small stalls, plenty of pedestrians and mopeds everywhere.  The traffic is a libertarian's delight.  Stop lights, lane markers, speed limits are all "suggestions."  Mopeds even run around on the sidewalks.  They are like a separate species. 

The people are very nice, and very assertive.  Of course, you don't beat out both the French and the US military forces by being pushovers.  Our hotel is just off the river, which is your basic, muddy third world river.  It is used more as a street and sewer than anything else.  All the major sites are an brisk walk out.  The restaurants are really good.  Quiet ambience, much like the Parisian cafes.  the food has been extremely good so far.  We will venture a bit deeper tomorrow and eat from street vendors. 

The major outing today was a trip to the Vietnam War Remnants museum.  The perspective was definitely that of the current regime.  However, I must say, they handled the story in a very even-handed manner, relatively free of propaganda.  The story was brutal, and they held no punches.  It was emotionally very draining to see all the relics, photos and individual stories.  At the end of one day in Saigon, I definitely recommend it to folks that like an adventure.  But you have to stay on your game, all the time.

We spent four days in Hoi An and two days in Hue.  Those are smaller, older towns in the middle of the country, just below the Demilitarization Zone.  Hoi An is an ancient city with wonderful art and architecture, great tailors and craftsmen, and very nice food.  Hue is the old imperial capital, with many wonderful palaces, tombs and fortresses.  They were heavily damaged during the war, but some have been quite well restored.  In these towns, stuff was cheap.  For example, we ate a full dinner with drinks on the Perfume River in Hue for $15.00.  For four people.  and it was really tasty! 
The war has been hanging over my head this entire trip.  I've not really been able to get a grasp of what happened.  I'm glad I came on this trip, because now when I read a book or watch a movie about the war, I can put it in much better perspective and in an actual context.  The US fought the war to prevent the spread of communism.  OK.  Now Vietnam is communist, but it has a thriving market economy, very charming and aggressive people, a beautiful countryside, good food and tremendous history.  So the war did not accomplish what it set out to do.  Instead, it set the Vietnamese back 30 years.  This place could be another Malaysia or Thailand, economically.  Instead, it is still on a steep economic growth curve, but very early in its development.  Not even thinking about the human tolls from the war, it just never made sense strategically or economically for the US to fight this war. 
If you want to rekindle your anti-war passsions, come to Vietnam.

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  January 02, 2008, 14:55 PM

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re:Vietnam (and side trip to Angkor Wat)
sounds awesome.  where did you stay in Saigon?

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